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We tend to have a hard time understanding the way the majority of people interact. Low empathy. We returned back home, (live separately) and since then his told me to have time apart to think this through. Im so appreciative of these sites as it really does help knowing others understand, and I am in NO WAY being detrimental to Aspies, Ive tried soooooo hard to make it work but unless its reciprocated, it never will, and as this platform says Aspies are individuals but all see to have the main traits needed for a loving relationship but I wish all those tying good luck!!! He does it in front of the kids. I understand its is autism but it hurts me because I love him dearly but he cant see a future with me. FG B, 1,000s of times, whre, dead fish, no spring chicken, mentally ill, bipolar, crazy like insert name here, brooding, hypocrite, liarI cant even remember them all. Ive been married for 35 years, and cant take it anymore. It didnt even make any sense to you why you were fighting. I have had a few meltdowns already, I kinda of became way too emotional in front of him. I think its either because they had one parent not on the spectrum or parents who did not teach by example these behaviors and held them to higher standards. He has a lawyer and wants toseparate, not really understanding what it is. All the acting and insecurities. Its pure madness trying to love an ASD person while trying to ignore your own biological and psychological needs. He has a psychologist who reinforces some of his behaviors. He simply shuts down and will not respond to the questions which I deserve to know. I really want to just run away but he says he's suicidal and I'm so stressed out that I'm physically sick frequently. They repress their true identity to fit in On the other hand, he wants me to be with him every weekend and all weekend long. He uses the silent treatment, usually for a couple days, and then he relents only when I am being nice. Thank you. I must have broken up with him at least ten times and thought about it even more. Her personality changed within 1 month. He chose to sit in a bar and drink to excess every night. Its a continue process and its been a week and it feels like he doesnt want to text or call me anymore but he does say he loves me and even made baby names for our future with me. I soon found we didnt have anything to talk about. And I do it right back so he understands how cruel it is. I guess I have been "on trial" all these months and didn't know it. I have experienced the Silent Treatment 2 times now. At home, they werent trying as hard anymore. Ive lived this and could not take anymore after 5 years of hell! He then moped around work looking lost and depressed for a while, but never made an effort to talk to me even though we worked super close together, and hed even go out of his way to avoid me at any cost (in the hallway, elevator, etc.) Ive mentioned counselling before. I have been on this journey of trying to find understanding, since early 2015. I love him the way he is, but the silent treatment and being shut out kills me when he does it. I didn't think it was a good idea. We went through a serious disagreement about her choice of partners. :). I tried to change the subject, and in a very charming way, she stopped on the sidewalk,looked directly in my eyes, smiled, and asked "do you like me?" No wonder they need time alone. Its so so hard being at my place, What ever i do seems to make things worse. Apparently, he masked his true self to get me and then left me scared, lonely and sad. I dont know what to do because it hurts being ignored and i overthink a lot that he has somebody new. Another time she had the nerve to tell me how some guy (not her boyfriend) messaged her on Snapchat and that she met him at a party. We dated again for over a year, made plans to build a future together and then he went cold with no explanation. Also years of being an outcast picked on psychologically and physically abused means I tend to assume at a subconscious level people probably won't like me, when reality turns out not to match you deep seated insecurites it can be exciting but also frightening. Ive been with my husband 21 years, married 3. I was struggling to deal with his alcoholism and depression. This is the second time he has left the relationship even through he has said on many occasions that he wont find anyone better then me. Seeing that you are an NT male as I read these comments, I am reminded to ask KM or others if support groups exist with mixed gender neurotypical partners in pain. Affordable is key, he has trouble keeping a job and could never support himself. Your partner had seen the worst of you and loved it deeply, but suddenly this tiny detail was catastrophic. I cant help someone whos silent. To even begin to resolve these issues, youre going to have to understand each other. I feel like he broke my trust and i dont know if i could trust him again. We had been hanging out for a few weeks, finally kissed, and then I havent seen her since. You tried to ask questions, tried to understand, but everything you said was wrong. He's rude and inconsiderate, he eats food I'm highly allergic to when I visit, he looks over my shoulder when I text people, he speaks almost entirely in sarcasm even though I have a really hard to understanding it. You deserve a loving normal individual in your life who can have a date with you, talk to you, look you in the eyes, hold your hand, kiss you. Please please help me someone. We have members from around the world meeting online in intimate video conferences guided by Dr. Kathy Marshack. People defending this behaviour (whether theyre on the spectrum or not) is something all these victims of abuse do not deserve. Basically there is a lot of stress in an aspie when dealing with social stuff, included relationships im sure (i. This really hurts. I have a friend and over the corse of just a few months we became very close. After a few false starts, we embarked on a passionate and loving relationship, the intensity of which I'd never known before. Today he basically told me to leave bowing gracefully and if I didnt hed pack my things and my childrens and dump them on the doorstep of my house. I found him and paramedics saved him. others or their feelings are of no interest to them . Hes reluctant to admit that theres a problem. Over the course of months and months, Id send emails and texts, and hed just reply with the same sterile text, "Sorry youre hurting" or something like that, leaving no room for conversation or reconciliation. He cant handle actually thinking of the topic itself. (Our pets are our children). He left a long term relationship to be with me, he has a child, also on the spectrum. Every time I tried reaching out to talk about the relationship he would get distressed, verbally aggressive, showing absolutely no empathy and his take was that this period was to not talk at all. Hes not that far on the spectrum and I think things will be better by dinner time. In my experience, even with honest talks, it doesnt get better. Its been two months and as much as I love him, I know hes capable of doing this again when any conflict arises. This person was a paradox, somehow more mature than everyone else and yet vibrant with a childlike innocence. A friend once said one day it will happen again you will gradually become desensitized to it, and just like that you wil realize no more!!! You were living your life as usual, but your partner began feeling like your independent actions had something to do with them. Being able to express your emotions and be emotionally supportive of each other is the lifeblood of a healthy relationship. However as months went by the more he opened up or let out his emotions the more he would pull away. Note Im a very social person. People on the Autism Spectrum have a difficult time maintaining a relationship because they just dont think about you when you are not around. Ive been driving myself nuts since then. Love should be a joy. Your words resonated with me that I obliterated him. It's a difficult question and the answers would vary considerably from one person to another and would depend greatly on the circumstances. Leave him be..for nowstop thinking about what he is doing or thinking. I am not saying that everyone with mental disabilities / personality disorders is toxic, but toxic relationships are hard to escape from. We spent the night together and next morning he was different. Two days ago I sent him an understanding email, to try to let him know that Im not angry and that either way, whether he decided to break up with me or stay together, life would carry on calmly. And when he comes out of it he wont even know that it was painful for me, and thats okay. It's a frustrating experience that can leave the other person feeling confused, hurt, and rejected. When I have spent my life helping others in NeuroDivergent relationships resolve the stress and misunderstandings and chaos? He started something hes never done before, these weird, business-y emails to discuss logistics. To be a carer for a person that will NEVER love you tge way you hope and dream. the whole relationship is completely strained, sex was good but robotic like a routine pattern.a cuddle not a warm embrace. She just turned 36 in December. The relationship will fail if you think that "dropping hints" or describing your needs in vague terms is enough to get your point across. No call no text .. nothing. Its not just that you love him, but you have free will to decide what you want. You might want to be careful with this. Actually even a tentative diagnosis might be a good first step for us because although I brought up this issue to him months ago, he keeps being in denial. If youre a member of the group, please register for the call to discuss The Silent Treatment on Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:30 PM or Thursday, October 27 at 3:00 PM. I am sending up a prayer to all of you on this blog. He cant even be bothered to send me an emoji Also he is too busy with his work and I dont think he will travel to anywhere else for something he denies. This was 4 days ago and Im venting, sorry. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Take care. As a matter of fact some people(not just Aspies its a general psychological problem that can happen to anyone) deal with that kind of abuse by actually trying to make sure no one likes them so they can stay in their comfort zone. People who experience cognitive/mental health difficulties are at high risk of not being able to control their behaviour and it doesnt have to be related to personality difficulties. Its totally private but is unique in that both NeuroTypical and NeuroDiverse can participate. As we all know, relationships can be difficult and complicated at times, but when one partner has Autism, many more difficulties usually arise. As we know, aspies are not the world's best communicators and half of the time they'll be completely unaware that the problem is change resistance. That day has come, sad as it is but Im loosing myself and getting nothing back!! If you canMove onRun I am usually super patient and either keep silent or try to gently discuss it while he changes the subject or agrees with me but doesnt change. I have been thinking hard about what I want in the future. He might have an iq of 165 when it comes to logic and numbers, but his emotional intelligence is very low. How to take back your life, whether they get it or not. Once you become Trauma bondedthe devalue stage sets in. used P.O. The flirting and laughter was gone. It got me nowhere. Making friends can cause anxiety because of the high expectations people set and any self-consciousness people with autism may experience. I tried to make him interested in asperger's and understand the differences between us. Not everyone in a NeuroDivergent relationship experiences this level of narcissistic abuse, however. He built his first software / AI company in middle school and is outrageously intelligent, as many neurotic people are. They may become particularly anxious in certain social situations. My spouse was like your bf in the beginning. I suspect my husband is an undiagnosed aspie. And most of all this shutting down after he is triggered by something. I fear I wont be good enough to change him or guide him to face his problems. No messages. he drifts off in conversations and looses interest in what I say. Each is shaped by their background, their upbringing, their beliefs and their local customs. He stood up and left the room and asked me to leave the house. I'd like to say that aspies aren't like this but I'm sure there are a few. He would talk about general stuff (like how is he doing), but never about relationship where I wanted to talk about how we can work things out. Yet that somehow that is my fault it seems because I am ND. Over the years I have learned to live my life and be me. I'll discuss anything, and when I know change is coming, I'll get into gear for it. Many on the Spectrum would be horrified by the trauma inflicted on you. Our adult daughter 25 is undiagnosed aspie. Its all about Them. With a personality difficulty, its entitlement. well my happiness only lasted 2 months after we had a great night, dinner movie, wine we even joked around. She was defensive. I guess that is what this is???? (I'm sorry, Wrong Planet isn't allowing me to post the link.) If you can do that you may have a relationship that gives you some sense of love. He spent over 100 grand in a couple months on international trips and presents, we had a lot in common, and shared very niche shared passions. At this point it has been almost two weeks and I still havent heard from him. When I suggested he see his Dr, he got mad at me and defensive. Im doing 99% of the chores and getting groceries etc. Are you still together? My question is: once an Aspie has backed off in a relationship, is it possible to restore the relationship in some fashion that approximates the original strong feelings, or is it just "over?" Explain to him that he has the right to take time for himself if he needs to. Communication is complicated by the fact that Aspies have trouble mentally putting themselves in another's place, a trait known as "mind-blindness". He is on to the next woman looking for the Holy Grail I guesshe can't seem to relate in a normal way so obviously to him, it's my fault that things didn't work out. Friends trump family always because his friends share the same special interest, biking. Aspies dont ask themselves about how you feel about things, so we need to point it out in a way they will understand. I feel awful saying this but I have resentment. I am so sorry Peter. Its always hard. This person had been abused, overlooked, mistreated, and devalued. A life of not udnerstanding teaches you strategies to appear to understand, simply to make life easier. I didnt figure it out until year 18 so the damage was beyond repair. My bf is an Aspie. 1. So you guessed it. But he has to give us a chance, and I dont know how long he will stay away. In fact it was the one of my anxiety attacks that upset our plans that triggered this latest shutdown. ASPERGER SYNDROME & RELATIONSHIPS Support, creating their own personal rules for engagement, Asperger Syndrome: Partners and Family of Adults with ASD, Our of Mind Out of Sight: Parenting with a Partner with Asperger Syndrome (ASD), Membership Support for ASD/NT Relationships, The Big Mistake (And The Five Steps to Correct it), Healing from Unspeakable Tragedies of the Past. I'm having a similar experience, very interested and then total withdrawal. My name is Liz. I of course begged, pleated and apologized because of my abandonment issues to no avail. I;m 45yo and have AS, was diagnosed at age 39. I deal constantly with snide behaviour and short remarks. I suspect it will go on longer. Weve traded a few sporadic texts, but none recently. my daughter , runs around school drop offs and yet here I am , writing on a blog and hes gone into shut down , buggered by a small argument .hes packed his suit case and left. I study to become a psychologist, so I even have a special interest in people's diversity. Many writers like Kathy Marshack and Maxine Aston write from the perspective of neurotypical supremacy, pathologizing, peddling paltry stereotypes, directly misrepresenting or ignoring research, and claiming [with painful irony] that aspies have zero degrees of empathy and simply cant understand well, much of anything. If we stay together longer, you'll . Run! Has an amazing job and extremely successful. Is there any hope he might decide we should be together again. When I was young, I knew when my mother didn't like a child that I brought round home. And then after another few months, now he's kinda done the same thing, hence why I'm trying to understand aspergers more now, so I know what to do, and if that has something to do with it. I confessed my feelings to her,even telling her how my heart felt. The first time he did not speak, email, text or call me for 1 month. The problem is that he has been allowing another woman to pursue him. Same here. In the year that we were together, when we were in each others presence, he was very emotional and empathetic. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". The progress hes made has been evident, but slow but the setbacks are always catastrophic. I don't want to spend my energy understanding something I am not interested in. We are both bright and have completed graduate degrees, but have had many struggles in our marriage as well as in maintaining friendships. She expressed to us (before this happened) that if we really knew her we wouldnt love her. He completely went cold and whenever I tried to reach out, email, text, etc..he'd act like I was bothering him and he was so busy (even though he had no other friends and was closest to me). At the level of the neurology, the differences lend themselves to inevitable conflict. I guess I just needed to vent to people who know what I'm going through. Ive had the extraordinary experience of starting a fledgling romance with an aspie recently. Why can't you focus on reliable information, like facts?" Girl: "You're weird. People generally feel safe if they believe they can solve all problems. I got hurt. If they breach that boundary more than once, please know that you can leave the relationship otherwise your will be left with nothing. The stay-at-home mom of two teen boys in Connecticut says life with her husband, Rob, a successful computer engineer with Asperger's syndrome, is "like riding a roller coaster 24/7 without . I know this is complex but the goal is to be brave, face your own fears, and be there for the other person first. He will continue on his path of destruction, appealing to him is a complete waste of time. When I asked him is it something I did he said its how he is. This has happened in the past and I have been understanding and asked only that he be 100% transparent with me in the future if it happened again. Thank you so much. I am now at the end of a very long aspie relationship. So be very clear, if they need their space, we must clearly explain that their behaviour is not acceptable and that they can reach out to us when ready to continue. I hold people rather strictly to agreements that they make. I figured it was bad timing because he blocked me 2 days later. He blows over the smallest thing. Did he really never love me? There are probably posts on here about it; I'm not sure. So when my partner behaves as per the pattern that most people have shared, that is when I need to communicate to him very clearly that that type of behaviour is not acceptable and that he needs to talk with me about what he is experiencing. Without empathy, NeuroDiverse folks need a strong moral code to keep from slipping into narcissism. I am 19 and have a boyfriend with ADHD and Asbergers and I am wondering if I can post something and have free access to delete it in the future if possible. Im afraid I have hurt him too much for him to come back. Then, friends. Not that I am aware of. When I tried to open up about deep and painful stuff, they just said, hmm. It really hurt. I went to say hello, and she looked away and kept walking. I saw the red flags throughout the relationship but always found an excuse as to why he would be constantly stressed, angry, disconnected or depressed. My aspie husband still miserable having left but refuses to look at his own behaviours or get help . I keep trying, hoping, forgiving and any disagreement or triggered PTSD(mine) takes us back to ground zero as if we have never discussed hurts, strategies, team work, NOTHING!! How are you going now. February 3, 2021 / 1:08 pm (MST) I certainly grieve over my mistakes and wished Id had the insight I have now. I hope this doesnt sound too negative. He does not want to be tested. Its very sad because I thought we were happy together. Hi there,I have been with my Aspergers partner for over 1 year. He is very high functioning. Right now my mother has used private info I told her about a bad time my husband lost it and grabbed me so I wouldnt leave him and told the cops . Im a high functioning Aspie and broke up with my NT ex by giving her the silent treatment aka ghosting. He doesnt read and is undereducated. If you can get out, do it. We were supposed to have dinner at his parent's the next day with my family as well and he still wanted to go through with that. Wow. Just get on with Your life my friend.. Apparently I failed the tests. Well see. No one else had realized how amazing this one person was. Aspie-neurotypical relationships often start out with intense passion, then fizzle and devolve into disaster. I have been with my asperger boyfriend for more than a year now. Weve been on a roller coaster ride since our eldest was born. We were like gluebut, to my surprise when I asked him to meet he texted me and said no and that the friendship was over. For the neurotypical: Eventually, things started to get weird. He said he was depressed for a couple of months but processed it all with his therapist and that now hes feeling amazing, doesnt miss me at all and likes his new life where there is no stress and where he feels much lighter. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. He was wonderful in the beginning, weird and adoreable. Asperger's syndrome is a neurobiological, developmental disorder related to autism. It lasted this long because we have our own homes. We were coworkers, only mildly acquainted. He said we would when he got out of this rut hes in. Hi July 21st and thanks for responding! 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